He calls out Oprah and Bill Cosby on this joint and manages to make a few good points. I disagree with his last statement on why young black kids wear their pants sagging. Though I don't agree with people who say that people wear their pants saggin' because of the jail culture either.
"They said be like Mike so ball nikka, that's RIGHT!/"
"Call me a dumb rapper, girl stop, pardon me/
You be hard pressed to find another rapper smart as me/
Maybe Jay-Z 2pac, C-U-B-E/
But Oprah rather put Superhead on TV."
What do you guys think about this joint?
5 comments:
What do I think about the fact that Oprah would rather talk to a self-proclaimed "video hoe" rather than a rapper????
well Superhead was merely ONE of a panel of women who were on Oprah to discuss how young women see themselves and to talk about self-esteem issues....BUT, and I do mean BUT...I still think that for her to put rappers in a general category and not even want to talk to them is rediculous...IF she has such a problem with the culture, than why not interview them? Try to understand the culture...
Personally I think it has a lot more to do with dollars and cents than anything...Oprah's number one demographic is white women...and I don't think a male black rapper is relatable to her core fan...
HOWEVER, I also think it depends on the rapper...for example, she wanted to interview OutKast, however they declined her offer...maybe OutKast is a "safe" rap group now...
I don't know I have issues with Oprah on a couple levels, this being one of them...don't get me wrong she IS the bomb! But I think she has put all of rap into one category and she doesn't look at the entire picture...having 50 Cent's "in the club" doesn't make you down...especially when you refuse to let Mr. 50 sit on your couch...
Dag I said all of that to say...I feel Killer Mike on that one...
Yeah Bone I think that I'm feeling Killer Mike on this one too. Real tough sh*t being said on this track.
I didn't even know that people said baggy jeans is from the prison culture. Can you explain to me how it represents homosexuality? I can't say that I had baggy jeans because my mom bought them to big BUT that seems more likely as its place of origin than the prison thing...in my opinion.
"well Superhead was merely ONE of a panel of women who were on Oprah to discuss how young women see themselves and to talk about self-esteem issues."
Thank you for clearing that up because I DEFINITELY didn't know that was the case. That IS a little different than it just being a show with Superhead on.
I agree with you Tiff to a certain extent it is about money and her core demographic. But Oprah's such a powerful person in terms of her demographic that she can bring those women into hip-hop and help them better understand why things are the way they are. The problem is that Oprah either doesn't understand hip-hop herself enough to bring others in and shed some positive light on why things are the way they are. OR, Oprah doesn't care because she feels that hip-hop is so degrading to black women that it shouldn't be given exposure on her show because it will further the stereotypes she has issues with.
And Outkast is "safe"...Very safe. Kanye West was on Oprah right? He's not safe. So she definitely picks people strategically. She has said that she doesn't have an issue with hip hop but with its facilitation of the degradation of black women. And being a powerful and influential black woman, I can respect that she's standing up in that regard. But I don't think she's really attempting to understand why these guys talk like that and address (or bring to light) the issues behind the music.
Dane, it's been rumored for a while that the origin of the saggy pants was because guys in jail wore their pants hanging low b/c they can't wear belts in jail. That's true and that's believable. All this homosexual stuff they're talking about is just someone taking the original rumor/speculation (as stated above) and running with it. People ran with it and said guys in jail who wanted some dyck would wear their pants hanging down, which is totally UNTRUE! You know Bay is locked up and he tells me all about how that shyt goes down and that's not true. I don't buy into the my mom bought my pants bigger...It doesn't make sense at all considering larger pants typically cost the same price if not more. I think he just wanted to throw some seemingly legitimate answer to the speculation out there. But it's BS to me.
"But I don't think she's really attempting to understand why these guys talk like that and address (or bring to light) the issues behind the music."
Totally agree with that statment...
And Kanye WAS on Oprah, BUT it was a show about mothers...so the topic of music and politics were merely skimmed...it was mainly about the relationship with him and his momma....
and yes the rumor about the pants is true and it became a fashion because when people "came home" they were institutionaliszed (SP?) so their habits continued and just took off in the community...
Yes that homosexual thing is boogus...
Peace
Thank you for denouncing that homo stuff surrounding the saggin' pants. It sounds silly. In my eye, that's just another example of the disconnect between the hip-hop generation and those that came before us. People like Bill Cosby and Oprah can't fully understand how hip-hop is not always a negative thing and that the genre/culture will be vital/instrumental in helping the youth of today better themselves. I know it doesn't appear that is possible when you look at "mainstream" hip-hop, but there are lots of artists out there trying to uplift and not push us back years and years.
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